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Topic: Re: Denethor's Palantir    Reply to: msg 357
Posted: April 15, 1998 at 11:28:29: by Neithan
: : OK, new to the board here, but I'm psyched I've found it! Question for discussion:
: : Do you feel Denethor's behavior was a direct result of him being "enslaved" by the power of Sauron through the Palantir? Or was his desperation just an eventuality that was a direct result of him trying to go toe-to-toe, with good intentions, with the Nameless One? Do you see where my two questions differ? In other words, was he just a less radical version of Saruman? The whole Palantir thing still confuses me, even though I'm in the middle of my 7th time reading the Trilogy.

: : Discuss.
: In my opinion Denethor's behaviour was the result of him being endangered by 'true king'-Dúnadan. He wanted to beat down Sauron and be the only one to rule. I belive he was someone like Saruman but without his power and wisdom. Then, after he had looked into the Palanthir, he became dependent from the Dark Lord. It was just his proud and foolishness that drove him to what he did.

I do not agree, Pride- yes, foolishness?? that foolishnes was fueled by his desperation of knowing that his realm was doomed unless a miracle would happen. Perhaps one he could discern through the Palantir. And, as far as I remember, and believe me- I have read those books many more times than Matt's seven- possibly rather seventy! (I like them, Denethor employed the Palantir before he had any knowledge of Aragorn. Furthermore, the way both his sons subjected themselves to Aragorn's leadership, once he had proven his inheritance and ancestors, suggests to me that Denethor raised them to be faithful servants of a Gondorian King- should one (highly unlikely) ever turn up. As we all know, it is coomon to raise your children to those ideals that you yourself have not been able to attain.



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