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Topic: Re: Glorfindel    Reply to: msg 624
Posted: June 10, 1998 at 23:59:54: by Michael Martinez
: : Well, the Glorfindel story is certainly concocted, but then,
: : why would any of the Noldor WANT to return to Middle-earth at
: : a time of war? Tolkien's dealings with the tradition are at
: : best incomplete. He may have felt so "famous" a name should
: : not be reused, but then he reused other Elven names (such as
: : Rumil and Guilin).

: About the reusing name business. It is a little more than just
: reusing a name,because if both Glorfindels were different
: characters then they would have been alive at the same time (In
: LOTR it said that Glorfindel had been in Valinor with the rest
: of the Noldor).

It doesn't say when, although I don't think that matters.
I certainly had the impression he was there in the First Age,
but originally Glorfindel was to be descended of an Elf
from Gondolin (probably the "first" Glorfindel, as that would
have been consistent with the idea of Elves being reborn in
their descendants, an idea Tolkien later abandoned).

But the two Guilin's, IIRC, both lived in the First Age. Or
maybe they were both named Gelmir. I think it was Gelmir and
not Guilin. One was a messenger from Cirdan to Orodreth who
helped Tuor. The other was hacked to pieces by Morgoth's Orc
captain at the start of the Nirnaeth Arnoediad years before.

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