Posted: November 27, 1998 at 14:10:22: by Starman
: OK, Bombadil aside, if memory serves, the Elves called themselves 'The Firstborn' or something similar. Didn't Aule make the Dwarves before the Elves were on the scene and then put them in 'suspended animation' (sorry) until later? They had been alive and presumably sentient until Manwe (I think?) raised an onjection. So were the Elves justified in their claims?The Elves are justified in claiming that they were the first because Eru saw what Aule was doing before the dwarves were actually "alive". If you argue that they were still there first then you may as well say that rocks and such were there on Middle-Earth before anything. Also I think that the elves were there long before Bombadil, he was there before the men of Westernesse came over the sea but there isn't (as far as i remeber) any reference to him in the Silmarilion which tells of the elves in Middle-Earth and in the west long before men were created.
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