Posted: January 12, 1999 at 18:28:42: by Cyberlock
: : My sense is that Men weren't on the Council. As the Councils : : were held in Rivendell, the Chieftains of the Dunedain of the : : North might have sat in on the Councils (or some of them), : : possibly. It seems unlikely (and there's no evidence) that : : Gondor was in any way represented, though the Stewards may have : : been kept abreast of the Council's doings by Saruman or other : : messengers. Gondor was mostly absorbed in its own troubles, at : : any rate. But again, as Michael says: : : : : : That's all largely guesswork, of course.: You're probably right that Gondor might have relied on Saruman for information about the Council, but most of the councils appear to have been held in Lorien, rather than Imladris. Gondor was aware of where Lorien lay. Imladris, being much farther north and in lands not visited by Gondorians for more than a thousand years (if ever), could be reasonably beyond Denethor's exact knowledge. Undoubtedly he and Boromir knew it lay somewhere in the Misty Mountains. :Because Erestor was Elrond's Cheif Counsellor I still think that Erestor might have been part of the White Council, at least some of the time. Another question is: What about the elves of Mirkwood? Did Thranduil have any messangers to the White Council, if they were good enough for Elrond's Council then maybe they were important enough to be in the White Council. (Cyberlock)
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