Posted: March 09, 1999 at 19:36:31: by Michael Martinez
: I explain. Morgoth is indeed another name for Melkor used only
: during the war between the Elves and Melkor but, when Morgoth
: died, Melkor named as Morgoth(Melkor/Morgoth) disappear for
: ever. Is there something left? Yes, only a shrunken Melkor(note
: I don't called him Melkor/Morgoth) who was powerless. What I am
: trying to explain is that Melkor/Morgoth the Tyrant died for
: ever when he was put to death by Mandos. It was the very end
: for Melkor/Morgoth, but not for Melkor.
: You just have a remote part of the original being(Melkor).
: There is no more right to talk of Morgoth, because Morgoth
: doesn't exist anymore.Morgoth = Melkor. It's as appropriate to speak of Morgoth as to speak of Melkor even after his execution. However, MORGOTH'S RING indicates that he will indeed recover his strength -- that is because he imbued most of it into Arda itself, and since Arda will not be destroyed, Melkor/Morgoth will eventually recuperate enough to re-embody himself. However, all the stuff Jon has posted is about a rejected prophecy which is completely incompatible with THE SILMARILLION and the world of Middle-earth as revealed through THE HOBBIT and THE LORD OF THE RINGS. It was Tolkien's intention to reincorporate the prophecy with respect to a temporary resurrection of Turin at the end of the First Age. This change, however, he never did attend to. The story of Turin originated with THE BOOK OF LOST TALES (which is not> about Middle-earth -- it's a completely separate legendarium). "Turambar and the Foaloke" marks the first appearance of Turin in literary history. Eventually, Tolkien composed the "Lay of the Children of Hurin", and from that developed the prose "Narn i Hin Hurin", from which the story of Turin in THE SILMARILLION was taken. Portions of the Narn were published in THE SILMARILLION and the rest was published in UNFINISHED TALES (where Christopher explains which parts he used for "Of Turambar" and which parts he summarized in the SILMARILLION). In any event, if Tolkien was indeed aiming for a rewrite of the Dagor Dagorath tradition itself, then it would not have included Turin, and the outcome would have been somewhat different from the pre-Middle-earth version so many people refer to.
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Parma Endorion: Essays on Middle-earth, Revised Edition
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