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Posted: April 03, 1999 at 22:21:15: by elanor
Thanks, duellists, for a great read. But it leaves me with some questions. First: I always thought that the swords and spears of the Army of the Dead could and did inflict wounds in the enemy soldiers, whether Men or Orcs. Their ghostly presence was enough to send many soldiers running for the hills but I wouldn't think moving dead men would scare Orcs? What's the consensus on this? Second: I'm not sure what was meant by the reference to Prof. Tolkien's use of "time distortion" in Lothlorien. One of the fellowship (Sam?) comments on the phase of the moon being different from what he'd expected. But I figured that the "power of the Lady" was such that they forgot so fully about the outside world and the pain they had been carrying that it seemed as though time had stood still. I'm almost sure someone says "we've been here a month" which solves the mystery of the moon's similiar phase. If there is time distortion in a "science fiction" sense I guess I missed it. Comments, please? And finally, I wanted to comment on the mention of the Nazgul's fear of water and the comment that it was "odd". I had always thought it a little lame, a way to give the Nazgul some handy weaknesses until I read the Silmarillion. Could it be that the spirit of the great Ulmo still ran in the waters of Middle Earth, albeit less powerfully and with less direct intervention than before? I admit I have a great love of rivers so the idea really appeals to me. In my 700 page screenplay version of LOTR (yeah, me too) I had the voice of the "summons dream" come from the river. Boromir carries with him to Rivendell a flask containing water from the Anduin. At the Council, Elrond pours this water into a bowl, breathes on it, emerses his hands in it and we "hear" the voice repeat the summons-prophecy "Seek for the Sword-that-was-broken...etc.
Anyway, does anyone else think that Ulmo may have been behind the Ringwraith's seemingly odd fear of water? I'd love to know.


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