Posted: May 07, 1999 at 15:43:42: by Michael Martinez
: In the Took family-tree (Appendix C, LotR)there is an entry
: under the name of Bandrobas "Bullroarer" Took which says: "Many
: descendants, including the North-tooks of Long Cleeve. That
: and a mention that Pippin marries Diamond of Long Cleeve is the
: only information I could find on this division of the Took
: family. Does anyone know anything else? And also, is Long
: Cleeve on any ot the maps? I might be being inobservant. Thanx!
: Niniel(a newbie)Welcome aboard. :) Tolkien did not put Long Cleeve on any maps of which I'm aware. Karen Fonstad and Robert Foster speculate that it's in the Northfarthing (probably since the North-Tooks descended from Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took lived in Long Cleeve). Fonstad placed Long Cleeve in in the North Moors, at a position southwest of Greenfields, in her Atlas. I don't know why she chose that location. MERP may also have Long Cleve on some of their maps, but I don't have the Shire module or anything else that would show where they placed it.
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