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Topic: Re: evil and purpose    Reply to: msg 5321
Posted: September 24, 1999 at 13:44:08: by Cuiviar
: Now, I am going to throw out some confused and half finished thoughts for you to share and comment on (it is 07.00 in the morning here now- and I have a young girlfriend).
: I was thinking of Gollum, he finally "reddems" himself, though unwillingly and still evil at heart. This made me think of "purpose" in M-E, I think that everything and everyone is there for a purpose, even the evil beings, Everything concieved by Eru's thought seems to have a purpose (though it is hard for me to think of one for Morgoth and Sauron and I mostly build my case on Gollum, however, was I not so sleepy, I could probably find more). To me, this implies that all Eru's thought is instrumental in healing Arda marred. However, where does that leave free will?
: These are just jumbled thoughts but I thought I would post them anyway for your... amusement?
: Neithan Turambar

I think this is very much along the christian philosophical line, where although god is omniscient and omnipotent -in terms of governing the world- humans (and other beings, i suppose, in this case) have the ability to choose through their free will.... Boethius is the man to look to for a clear explanation (The Consolation), and i don't have my copy of it on hand, so i'm just going to leave it there and mabye say some more on this when i can be sure that i know what i'm talking about.



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