Posted: September 26, 1999 at 05:36:01: by neithan
: : I know that- note the ","- I guess I should have said "or"
: : instead?? I even answered someone elses quwry as to the slayer
: : of Gorthmog awhiole ago and stated (this is the point- no pun)
: : that I found, and find, it highly unlikely that Gorthmog was
: : indeed killed with a Prussian spiked helmet as described in the
: : book. Balrogs in the L.T. seem much less powerful, though more
: : numerous, then later.: They weren't the same Balrogs. :) True (what, then were they?) : [Oh, I have a terrible bad streak in me, I know!] Only occasionally;-) : : My point that I wanted to debate was death (or whatever other
: : applicable name you, with English as your native tongue, can
: : think of "fading"? "Expiration"? "Banishing"?) of the Ainur
: : though, do you think that a Maia who had not invested so much
: : spiritual power in material creations could grow again and take
: : shape (much like Morgoth will reeneter the world)?
: : :-) NT : I think you need to build a framework for "death" in Tolkien. What is "death"? What do you think it is? I know I think of it as, which is rather complex situation. I like the fact that the Elves had more than one word for death. I do not want build that framework, I just want to debate whether or not the Ainur would die or reform (I do not want to encounter Gorthmog on a dark night when I am all alone and unarmed;-)), You guys are really hard to pin down. But death seems to depend on the circumstances in which you expire.... Who you are, how you die, etc.
NT
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