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Topic: Re: Origins of Trolls and Orcs...    Reply to: msg 5569
Posted: October 07, 1999 at 09:38:09: by Neithan

: Dave is right, sort of: I just finished re-reading the Silmarillion (again!) myself, and it states that it was BELIEVED that orcs were bred from captive elves. Tolkien doesn't actually state that this was the TRUTH, however...a distinction that should be emphasized!

No, Dave is not right. Tolkien later stated that Morgoth could neither create a new race, nor corrupt an entire people. Offspring of corrupted Elves would be... Elves, not Orks, read the source references I gave you- Sil. is not the scriptures. Tolkien himself was in doubt, I think he ended up deciding that Orks were not intelligent but merely like Dogs or trained monkeys or something like that.
In spite of this, in MY version of M-E, the one that is based on my interpretation and where I game, Orks are bred from debased Elves (though I may change it to Men, another of Ronald's thoughts). However, I know that it is not so- it is merely the easiest solution to a problem that was raised but never clarified.
NT



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