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Topic: Re: More on the One, the three, the seven and the nine...    Reply to: msg 5570
Posted: October 08, 1999 at 03:11:48: by Stephen Geard
: The three, however, Sauron had no part in making; they were thus "purer", and more able to resist Sauron's influence. As for their original holders, according to UT I believe that Gil-Galad originally held two, and Galadriel one; they were given into their keeping after Sauron put on the One, seized the others, and revealed himself. Gil-Galad's went to Cirdan and Elrond, and Cirdan's was then given to Gandalf (Olorin) when he arrived in Middle Earth.

No. Celebrimbor gave the Three to Gil-galad and Galadriel after Sauron forged the One. I am talking about the original Keepers of the Three in Ost-in-Edhil, before the forging of the One.

My own theory (for what its worth) is that Celebrimbor kept one for himself (I think Narya, the Red Ring) gave one to his wife (Nenya, the White Ring). With regard to Vilya (the Blue Ring, the greatest of the Three) I think there are two options.

Option 1: Celebrimbor held it, intending to give it as a gift to Annatar (Sauron) in gratitude for his teaching the Gwaith-i-Mirdain how to make the Rings of Power. Of course, Sauron had gone away to forge his even greater Ring, but Celebrimbor did not know that.

Option 2: If we accept Tolkien's late decision that the two Blue Wizards arrived in Middle-earth in the mid Second Age (say around SA 1200), then it is possible that one of them may have gotten mixed up in the Rings of Power business. In which case Vilya may have been held by one of them.

Stephen Geard
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