Posted: December 25, 1999 at 12:34:58: by Telcar
: : : : if there were no Merry or Pippin for them to seize?: : : I appreciate the thoughtful replies to the Boromir question. It looks to me as though people have given this a lot of thought. But none of you (so far, as of this writing) have suggested what the Orcs would have done if they hadn't found Merry or Pippin. They were under orders to seize any Hobbits and carry them off. Would they have stopped looking, or might they have crossed the river after Frodo and Sam? : : : How could that have impacted the story, do you think? : : The story would have been over if the Orcs began chasing after Frodo and Sam, unless they were once again saved by the eagles. But with the Ring on Frodo still might have made his escape, though I doubt he would have left Sam to fight off the orcs. It is my understanding that the orcs could outrun the boat, so even if they just ran ahead some distance they could have probably snared the two Hobbits. I really think the story only works as Tolkien wrote it (at least this scene). Without the orcs finding Merry and Pippin and having such a hard battle against Boromir, thus making them more interested in grabbing any Hobbits and departing quickly, we are left with scenarios that don't hold much water or put the heroes in too much danger. : I've gotta disagree that the story would be over if Frodo or Sam had been captured by the Orcs, after all they REALLY were captured at Cirith Ungol and still managed to escape. >Allthough The orcs primary target was to capture/kidnap hobbits, I dont think that they would have crossed the river and gone after Frodo and Sam for several reasons. 1 It was mostly Isengard orcs. 2) There proberly several orcs already on the east coast of Anduin. Fortunatly F and S never encountered them. 3. If they (the orcs) hadn't captured the hobbits they would proberly have attacked the rest of the fellowship. At this they would, due to their number, have succes and that explains also Boromirs death - and gimlis and aragorns and legolas - funny to think about it - that the last and on heir of Isildur would suffer death of a orcraid at the banks of Anduin - though we're 60 leagues south of the gladdenfields - lol:) Happy holidays All!!!
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