Posted: January 08, 2000 at 19:09:24: by Michael Martinez
: I read a novel called Isildur, on the internet recently. It
: stated that the mouth of Sauron was a Nümenorean of the second
: age that was cursed by Isildur like the dead men of Erech. It
: is a little far out, but it is not impossible.Brian Crawford's fan fiction was written in the late 1970s or 1980s and has absolutely no canonical value whatsoever. It also has many inaccuracies in it. There is simply no authority in his musings. It is quite impossible for the Mouth of Sauron to be a Second Age Numenorean. No man could live for more than three thousand years. Even Sauron was unable to extend the natural lives of Men. All he could do was extend their lives unnaturally by giving them Rings of Power, and those Rings turned them into wraiths. Tolkien states unequivocably that the Mouth was a living man, not a wraith. : I pesonally belive that Herumor was a man from Umbar of
: Nümenorean descent who had moved to Gondor. It seams quite
: fitting for him to take the name after the great (at least from
: the Umbarian point of wiew) king of old. It's not clear that (the first) Herumor had anything to do with Umbar. Herumor and Fuinur are simply said to have "dwelt in the wide lands south of Mordor beyond the mouths of Anduin". That's a lot of territory.
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