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Topic: Re: The 'battle' of Sauron and Finrod    Reply to: msg 9198
Posted: February 21, 2000 at 05:42:54: by Foradan
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: Well, just imagine that Sauron would have found out that one of the Elves was Finrod, he would have captured him and probably send to Morgoth. Morgoth would offcourse send word of this to the Elves, this would be devestating to moral. Imagine the most beloved of the house of ??Finwe?? (as stated in the Silmarillion) captured by Morgoth. How would you feel if you were an Elf and someone like Finrod was captured?

What I am wondering about is whether it really was Finrod's resistance that prevented their identities and purpose from being revealed. Couldn't they just have shut up anyway, or would Sauron with his power have been able to force the truth from them, had Felagund not resisted? (And if he could have, how come? Even Morgoth wasn't able to constrain Hurin to reveal what he knew of Gondolin,and Hurin was weaker than Finrod)

: What would have happened if Finrod got the upper hand?? I think that Beren would've never gained a Silmaril. They would have been able to use the wolf and bat skin they found on Sauron's isle. Although they where stopped by that big werewolf at the gates of Angband, they would've never been able to travel so far without being discovered by Morgoth's servants.

I was thinking more about the immediate effects. Would Sauron have swooned instead of Finrod and the company could have made their escape, or would Sauron just have thrown them into the dungeon in their orc forms?

: lockdar

:
: : The contest of songs between Sauron and Finrod at Tol-in-Gaurhoth was impressive, but was there really much point in it? The only outcome seemed to be that the companions were stripped of their disguise. Sauron didn't gain any other benefit. So what actually was at stake there? Did Finrod gain a partial victory by preventing their whole purpose from being revealed to Sauron? And what might have happened, had Finrod gained the upper hand?

: : -Foradan




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