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Topic: Council advice needed - Noldo Elves question    Reply to: msg
Posted: March 28, 2000 at 14:01:58: by Dave
OK, I have a question I would like some thoughts on.
In one of the ideas Tolkein had for Galadriels history, she was said to be 'the only Noldo left in M-E (at the time of the war of the ring) to whom the ban of the valar applied to' - I.E the chief Noldo rebels were banned from going back to Valinor. The implication is that there were others but they were not around at this time.
My problem with this is thus.....
The only way thay could not be around is
1) To have been forgiven and returned to Valinor
or
2) To have died
As these were ringleaders, we are talking like cool dood, Noldo Elf Lords.
If they had died, were is the history of it?? Must be world shattering events, I mean Celebrian gets a mention just for getting wounded....
If they were forgiven, what did they do to earn it? Galadriel had to refuse the one ring when offered to get forgiven, what did these other elves do??
Seems to me an incongruous argument that JRRT threw in without considering properly.
If it is not the cae G was the only one left, then you have some big Noldo Lords stuck in M-E after the WoR, cos they hadn't been pardoned had they??

Thoughts please guys and gals.....This one is bugging me



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