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Topic: Re: Luthien and Sauron    Reply to: msg 13124
Posted: May 11, 2000 at 07:00:29: by Gandalf
: : : His brilliant machinations to destroy Numenor and cause an attack on Valinor might be the best example, but there are other:

: : : His warfare against Arnor and Gondor is pure genious at work. First attacking the weaker Arnor with his forces, while he saw the need to weaken Gondor with plagues and the limitless number of peoples pushing in from the east.

: : : And of course he managed something even Morgoth failed at: trapping the elves. As soon as the One ring was finished an evil beyond repair had been done. As Galadriel tells Frodo: "you are the footsteps of doom to us ringbearer". If Sauron gains the One all is lost, if the One is destroyed, middle earth is lost to the elves.

: : : He also seems to have been a formidable power in combat, facing both Gil Galad and Elendil. I also find it prudent to remind you that while Sauron was not daunted by Luthiens eyes, Morgoth was.

: : : -Frode

: : : -Frode

: : Well, actually, Luthien beat Sauron outright. She only put Morgoth to sleep.

: : Gandalf

:
: Actually Gandalf, Sauron makes Luthien swoon just with his menace "she swooned before the menace of that fell spirit". So Sauron actually has Luthien at his mercy until Huan saves her. Not exactly 'beat Sauron outright' :).
: She beat Morgoth outright, but not Sauron.

: -Frode

You are absolutely right.
=)
Your servant, and your families...

Gandalf

P.s Sauron just had bad breath...



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