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Topic: Re: Elrond    Reply to: msg 13391
Posted: May 14, 2000 at 17:08:27: by Aelmer
: : Yes, this is something we debate endlessly, but that hasn't stopped us before, has it? ;)

: : As to wisdom coming form living a long time, why didn't the FA elves aquire wisdom? They had been around as long, if not longer than Elrond. Why didn't they aquire wisdom during all that time, did they put the wisdom centers of their brain on idle for a few hundred years? Maybe, not gaining wisdom was tied somehow to being in company of the Valar, or was part of the curse of Mandros, but that would only effect the Noldar before or following the revolt and not those still residing in ME. There might be an interesting discussion topic here.
: : ~Aelmer

: Ahhh, but did they live as long as Elrond? Elrond lived through many many changes. What was changing in Aman? Very little. What did Fingolfin experience, all the sorrows etc? I think experiences change people, and the more you live through, the more you experience, the better you'd be as a judge of life.
: I dunno, wisdom is hard to define I guess

: Gandalf

I would add that it's what you learn from life experiences, that makes you a better judge of life. I'm sure we both know people who should have learned somethng from an experience, but didn't.

Living a long time could also be a drawback. Once you get set in your beliefs, and way of thinking, it's hard to change them.
The lack of change, in one's surrondings and being able to change you view of life, may be key.

Little did change in Aman. Likewise, it appears little changed in Dorith also. It also seems that elves, in general, had a problem in dealing with, or accepting, changes in the status quo. If you compare Elrond and Galadriel, I think we see two different approaches to change. Elrond appears to have accepted the changes far earlier than Galadriel and was living among the changes as they occured. Galadriel, although she knew there were changes and more were on the way, was still trying to maintain the status quo in Lorien.
~Aelmer



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