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Topic: Re: Saruman...Out of the Loop    Reply to: msg 13750
Posted: May 21, 2000 at 15:59:53: by Tamim the TOROG
: : : Interesting points, but I beg respectfully to differ on a couple of issues. Just because he didn't recognize Aragorn does not mean he was completely ignorant of the Dunadan of the north.

: : I think you are right.
: : My problem is how come Sauron didn't know about the shire?
: : It was quite a big place and the WK had been in Angmar for a
: : long time and some of the battles of that time were not very far from shire or Bree. And if I would have been Sauron I would have been pretty sure that galadriel had one of the Three.
: : Sauron had met Galadriel as Annatar and he must have known her history, heritage and perhaps about Celebimbor's feelings for her.

: : Tamim the OLOG
: :

: When you think about it, there really wasn't anything important enough in the area of the Shire to give the WK reason to remember its location or what type of people lived there. There would be no reason to tell Sauron about the area, even if the WK remembered it.


There is nothing important in Northern Finland or Canada either
but they are areas. One simply doesn't ignore large geographic
areas even if the inhabitants are not important. One can wage war
or march trough any terrain. It is unbelievable that the WK had forgottten so vast area in the Northlands. Look at the map.

: Unless I'm mistaken, Sauron trying to recover the three rings was a cause of the Elves vs Sauron War.

No it wasn't, it was one of the causes. The big cause was to
conquer all the North Western ME. The rings were just a bonus.
Sauron wanted the One, after that the Three would have been under
his control.

: The chances are very good the Sauron suspected which important elf may have had a ring, but getting the rings was the problem.

I don't think it was such a big problem. He could have attacked Lorien from Dol Guldur.


Tamim the TROLL



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