I don't know enough about these matters to debate an etymological point, but my gut feeling is that Tolkien would have avoided using any name which included "lord" in it, no matter what the meaning.

: : I believe the Kings of Arnor and Gondor after Valandil and
: : Meneldil established new traditions, so I would be reluctant
: : to suggest their names were used in Andunie, except where
: : they are obviously named for an ancestor.

: I disagree. We don't have mauch data to go on, with only 4
: named Lords and 8 Middle-earth born High Kings, but from these
: two sets there are two common elements (Valandil & Earendur).
: So I think the High Kings (at least) may have drawn on Andunien
: names.

Actually, as I pointed out with my genealogy, we have many other names to go by. Isildur and Anarion and their sons are all part of the family, and only Valandil was born in Middle-earth. They all bear "Numenorean" (and probably "Andunien") names.

Hyarmendacil, Romendacil, Tarannon Falastur, Turambar, Ostoher, and Tarciryon are all highly improbable names for Lords of Andunie. Amlaith and his descendants all took names in Sindarin rather than Quenya, so it's highly improbable any of the Lords of Andunie used those names (and everyone from Argeleb I onward claimed regnancy over all Arnor, so again you have names with "Aran" in them).

Hence, my point (not clearly explained in the previous post) is that there is an identifiable pattern shift in both family lines. The majority of the kingly names from Arnor and Gondor are unsuitable for Lords of Andunie.

: : I'm pretty sure no Lord of Andunie would have presumed to
: : take (or to bestow upon a son) any name beginning with
: : "Tar-", which implied a kingship.

: Agreed. Hence I avoided Tarcil and Tarondor.

: : Third Age names I would regard as probable for Andunien
: : family names would include: Eldacar, Valandur, Cemendur,
: : Earendil, Earendur, and Anardil (the given or birth name of
: : Tar-Aldarion). Possibly also Valacar, Aldamir, and
: : Siriondil.

: Anardil & Cemendur are on my reserve list of names.

: : With respect to your list, I suggest the following names are
: : thus unlikely:
: : 2. Eldacar (1035 - 1194) Too much of a foreshadowing of the
: : Arnorian descent.

: Precisely why I chose it. See my page for details.

I don't think it's a good foreshadowing. I deem it more likely Valandil would have named his son for someone else in the family, perhaps even for his grandfather.

: : 7. Telumehtar (1700 - 1959) Doesn't seem to fit with the
: : family naming conventions.

: Given that he was a victorious warrior-general, I thought this
: appropriate.

But you completely constructed the history, and there is no indication that the Lords of Andunie took up their lordship with names other than their given names.

: : 8. Vilyanúmen (1959 - 2119) Doesn't seem to fit with the
: : family naming conventions.

: Maybe not, but surely I can put in one name of ny own
: invention?

I had the impression you were aiming for some sort of consistency with Tolkien's style.

: : 10. Herendil (2256 - 2386) Includes the "her-" element
: : implying lordship, even though the name could mean "Devoted
: : to the lord" (or to one's lord).

: I think that is what it means.

Nonetheless, I don't believe it would have been suitable for anyone holding a lordship in Numenor.

: : 12. Ciryaher (2518 - 2644) Includes the "her" element
: : implying lordship.
: : 14. Ulmondil (2775 - 2879) Doesn't seem to fit with the
: : family naming conventions.

: These names (as well as Ciryon and Earendur) suggest an
: association with the Sea. Ulmondil is modelled on Manwendil,
: Aulendil & Oromendil, all early descendants of Elros.

Yes, I saw that, but these names don't seem to fit with the style Tolkien used for the Lords of Andunie.

"Ciryaher", at the very least, is a royal name. A Lord of Andunie could not have borne it.
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