Posted: June 23, 2000 at 06:54:02: by Maglor
: No, I ACCEPT that Balrogs had wings. After all, J.R.R. Tolkien says they did, and they are HIS creations. I'm not trying to construct arguments which contradict the texts or imply that the texts could mean one thing for one reader and another thing for another reader.: I didn't have to do anything more than read the book to see that Balrogs have wings. I don't have to do anything more than cite J.R.R. Tolkien to SHOW that they have wings. I do have to invoke fact and logic to show why the no-wings arguments don't work. That goes well beyond merely citing Tolkien. He didn't anticipate all these efforts to show he was wrong, so he didn't leave behind any arguments proving that his Balrogs did indeed have wings or that they SHOULD have wings simply because he SAID they did. Sorry to bother, but I'm in doubt of the wing issue, could somone provide me a quote witch indesputevly says that balrogs have wings? Maglor
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