: LOL..."she?" Careful Jan, you might spark a whole new discussion in which nobody would be able to gain any ground. However, now that I think of it, the word "balrog" has popped into mind when experiencing my girlfriend's wrath...

er.. by she I was refering to Shelob, but your point is an interesting one none the less. If we canīt agree wether the Balgog had wings, or wether Sauron had a body, then how can we know wether Sauron was even male or female !? some things you have to make decide for your self, and I for one find that appealing. Its why I read this stuff in the frst place.

( So how come there are so few grrrls in Tolkien any how ? )