: I agree about Cirdan and I agree that there must of been other
: Teleri that remained, as notes indicate that Sam (as a momentary
: ring-bearer) and Legolas and Gimli leave on ship for Tol Eressea
: at the end of the Appendices in TROTK. So some had to be there to build the ships.

: I would think (again this is my opnion) that Glorifdel would have left. He was a reborn High elf of Turgons people.
: After the fall of Sauron he would have no reson to remain.
: All of the High Elves would have left at the end of the third
: age. That was their fate.

: It is my opinion that there must have been remaining Teleri to build the ships for the departing Teleri and Silvan elves.
: I believe that Celeborn and other Teleri would perhaps have stayed. They were historically AVARI, or unwilling
: to leave Middle-earth for the light of the trees. I think
: that there is no reference to any of the Noldor (other than Galadriel) remaining in Middle-Earth after the departure of the three.

: I therefore take issue with the notion that any of the son's of Feanor remained in Middle-Earth after the end of the first age. The only reference to kin of Feanor surviving(or
: remaining in Middle-earth after the first age is Celebrimbor
: (Initialy indicated as one of Tugons people and then changed to the son of Curufin). I also take issue with the notion that
: the Noldo looked upon the Valar as 'the enemy'. Part of the purpose of the Ban and all of their subsequent suffering was
: to 'unlearn' the notion that the Valar were anything other
: than the friends of the Elves. It was Morgoth who sowed the
: notion that Elves were captives in Aman. Mandos' statement
: 'so it is doomed' is simply and indication of his position as an oracle. He could forsee the suffering and the loss
: (as well as the Joy and the Glory) that would come from bringing
: the elves to Aman.

Ref Celeborn - I said he might have been in East Lorien (Mirkwood), not Lorien itself which is where Arwen went.

Noldor - there is no reference to any of them staying or indeed any specifics about them leaving en masse either other than a short and inconclusive statement in the Silmarillion.
Why do you take issue with the seed of Feanor remaining?? Clearly there cannot be a bibliography of every elf ever born in M-E and therefore as Maglor, Curufuin and Caranthir had wives I say it is LIKELY they had children let alone possible, and that these children had children - childless elves are a rarity in M-E.....
The house of Feanor is the disposessed and would not wish to return to Aman in shame - I did not say that the Noldor were RIGHT to take issue with the Valar, merely that they did.... And some Noldor were not altogether 'good' - this would not suddenly change with the downfall of Sauron - there are many examples in LoTR of Elves expressing a wish to 'Heal the world' after Sauron is defeated - Erestor for one, Lorien is another example. Why would they change their minds? Sure, the rings lost their power, but the desire to put right what they started in the first place would still exist in some of them. Some Noldor would never have seen the light of the trees and therefore do not have that Caliquendi reason to return - they are more like the Avari that never saw the light.

Glorfindel - is unique in that he's the only one we know of returning after death to M-E and therefore perhaps ceded his right to Aman - he didn't come to fight Sauron, he came to M-E as it is his home (that is implicit in HoME 12, the only way Elves can come back is if this is their 'home' - the cock and bull about a companion for Gandalf doesn't fit at all....)
Therefore I still maintain logically some Noldor MUST have remained in Middle-Earth
Don Q

: : I return therefore to my earlier point - I think it is not unreasonable to suppose a small number of Noldor remained with Glorfindel at Rivendell, and a small number remained in Forlindon as the ruling class there - the descendants (I believe) of Maglor, Caranthir and Curufuin who all had wives (according to HoME pt 12) and therefore probably had children - these Noldor are the least likely to leave Middle-Earth because of the curse laid on their forefathers - why would they ever want to go to Valinor to meet their 'enemy'??
: : Don Quixote