: : : : :
: : : : : There were only eight of them.

: : : : : It was they who had
: : : : : : to suffer to earn the forgivness of the Valar. Galadriel
: : : : : : and Celeborn are interesting cases as Galadriel, of all the
: : : : : : Noldor, did not swear the oath.

: : : : : Not correct. And besides Galadriel might have been the only one to whom the Valar did not give the permission to return after first age.

: :
: : ::SNIP

: : It is Correct, Only Feanor and his sons took the oath. None of the other Noldor did. At the end of the first age all of the
: : Noldor were pardoned and could return to Aman. Nowhere in text of the Silmarillion does it state that the remaining Noldor
: : (including Galadriel) HAD to stay in Middle-earth.. Many of them
: : left all the time. Say rather that Galdriel was fated not
: : to go since she had to redeem her sin of Hubris, by being tempted with and subsequently rejecting the ring when it was offered by Frodo. In this sense she has one of the most important parts in the whole Mythos.

:
: Vomact: Once again: In YOUR original post YOU say and I quote "Galadriel, of all the Noldor, did not swear the Oath". This implies that ONLY Galadriel did not take the Oath, and ALL the other Noldor did.

::SNIP I did not mean to give this impression.

Tamim is correcting this by saying ONLY Feanor and his sons took the Oath.

::SNIP AGREED

: Also you state that nowhere in the Silmarillion does it say that Galadriel had to stay in Middle-Earth. You imply that you believe Galadriel could leave for Aman if she wanted to.

SNIP:: I make no such imputation. Nowhere does it say in any of the auothors works that she couldn't leave (if she didn't want to)She had to stay to redeem the Noldor. It was her choice and her fate. If not there is no story.

I feel were are arguing semantics here.

I will draw your attention to this Quote from JRRT: "After the overthrow of Morgoth at the end of the First Age a BAN was set on her [Galadriel's] return [to Aman]...". This quote is from The Road Goes Ever On (RGEO), which was published by JRRT in his lifetime and thus can be considered 'canon'.

SNIP

:: I disagree. If it were 'Canon' one would suppose that Christopher would have seen fit to put it it then First Edition.
The BAN on Galadriels' return to Aman appears nowhere else
not in the Letters, The Unfinished Tales, The Shaping of Middle earth. Only in his pencil drafts of the Valenquenta (and early ones too!) I do not dispute that this may be a plot element that
JRRT was considering and I reiterate, the character of Galadriel
was undergoing constant revision throught the period when JRRT
was working on the Silmarillion. In many cases she is the most important character in all the books, since it is her choice,
her rejection of the ring, that provide for the 'final' redemption of the Noldor.

Vomact

: : : : : There was no "one ring" at the end of the first age.

: : : : : It is not implicitly stated in TLOR that any Noldor other
: : : : : : than the ringbearers departed with Gandalf and Frodo and

:
: Yes, it is implicitly stated. According to 'The Grey Havens' Gildor went with them. Also quote: "With them [the Ringbears] went many Elves of the High Kindred who would no longer stay in Middle-earth..." (from 'The Grey Havens'). The HIGH KINDRED are the NOLDOR.

: : : : : Snip

The High Kindred also include Teleri. Thingol was a 'HIGH
ELF' yet he was not A Noldo, Neither wass Celeborn

: No offence is intended but I would like to inquire if English is your (Vomact's) second language?.

SNIP:: None taken. English is my first language I type fast and as I said above I'm tryting to work at the same time.