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Topic: Re: Sauron is Morgoth?
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Posted: July 17, 2000 at 19:01:55: by Aelmer
: : It would have taken the ring to Sauron. Not because it was under Sauron's control, but because it, like all balrogs, were subservient to Morgoth. Sauron's evil essence, if you will, was in fact Morgoth's essence. This, coupled with the Ring's seeking its master, would have drawn the Balrog to Sauron.
: : ~Aelmer

: Sauron's essense is not Morgoth's. This is unsupportable (except on a rather extreme philosophical level, maybe). Morgoth and Sauron are distinct beings, Sauron being a servant of Morgoth. Balrogs were beholden to Morgoth, not Sauron. Therefore I do not agree that the Balrog of Moria would have been compelled to return the Ring to Sauron.

Sauron and Mogorth are distint beings, but the evil is Morgorth's. The evil within Sauron is Morgorth's evil. A balrog would recognize both Morgorth's evil and Sauron's spirit within the ring.

While the balrogs were subservient to Morgorth, they would also be subservient to his lieutentant,Sauron. I base this on my belief that balrogs were Maiar of a lesser rand than Sauron.

The balrog was aware of the fall of Morgoth. Therefore,upon recognizing the both the evil of Morgorth and Sauron's spirit within the ring, the balrog would seek to return the ring to a known superior. In this case, Sauron.

I admit, it is just a tad on the philosophical side. ;) ~Aelmer




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