Posted: August 05, 2000 at 11:15:27: by Maglor
: Ref Glorfindel, Tolkein eventually decided they were one and the same, and had different views on the subject. : He at one point felt that Glorfindel had come over seas with Gandalf in ca. T.A 1000 as a companion and may indeed have been a pupil of 'Olorin' in his sojourn in Aman after being released from the Halls of Mandos. : He also mused with the idea of Glorfindel returning to Middle-Earth in the Second Age to fight Sauron (around S.A 1600 when things began to go wrong for the Noldor - this seems more logical to me. : Essentially, Elves that 'die' or fade to Spirit end up in Mandos' halls where they must remain until released - if they have been wicked or corrupt (like Feanor) they must wait for a long time (possibly forever). : Once released, their spirit can rejoin their 'Fea' - Body. : Before the world was globed after Numenor, Elves that had died had a choice - those whose home was Middle-Earth could return there if they wished. : Glorfindel is the only one we know of, and so is unique maybe - and problematical as I don't know if the journey back to Middle-Earth was 'one way' or indeed if Glorfindel's willingness to return shows he would not wish to go back to Aman in the Fourth Age...... : Don QHi i'm back after a long journey in the sothern lands. I remember reading something (prehaps in HoME XI) about the reincarnation of the Elves. They can either get an adult body or CHOOSE TO BE REBORN AS A BABY. Maybe thats what could have happened to Glorfindel if Tolkien thought about it. It would certainly confuse the Eldar if somone killed 2000 years ago was reborn and grew up again. I'm not saying that Tolkien didn't consider him to be reborn in ME, but it's an amusing thought, how would a boy who perviously had been an adult behave? :) Maglor
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