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Topic: Re: Some thoughts on Gil-Galad    Reply to: msg 16829
Posted: August 10, 2000 at 19:37:53: by Tar-Elenion

: : : In fact that mention in the Law and Customs that elves usually get married when around 50 doesn't seem to jive with any other text of Tolkien... In all other texts they seem to wait from hundreds to thousands of years...

: : It does not seem to apply to the royals/nobles. What we need to look at is info on the commoners.

: There are precious little commoners with names, but even they seem to support the "hundreds to thousands of years" idea. Beleg, Mablung, Glorfindel don't seem to be married even though they had lived many hundreds of years *atleast*. Daeron wasn't married either though his being in love with Luthien might have caused that. Voronwe was born in Nevrast, yet hundreds of years later was still unmarried and "young according to the count of the Eldar". Eol had also lived many hundreds of years atleast before he met Aredhel.

Unfortunately _I_ don't consider any of the above nammed to be 'commoners'. They _seem_ to be some sort of nobility or princes. My statement probably should have continued with 'and JRRT does not seem to give us any info on commoners'.

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: : : : : And finally I feel there's a further balance in that in the second Age there exists one Feanorian (Celebrimbor), one Fingolfian (Gil-Galad)and one Finarfian (Galadriel)...

: : : : Elrond was a Fingolfinian on his Noldorin side.

: : Maglor is going to be upset that he was forgotten again (ref. to another thread on this site)

: Yeah, but he had disappeared and didn't enter the tales...

In one or two earlier versions he actually remained for a time with Elrond 'who ruled in the west of the world'. I don't recall if he remained when Gil-galad displaced Elrond as the ruler.



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