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Topic: Re: The G3A3 - Roxton approach    Reply to: msg 4240
Posted: August 12, 2000 at 17:14:02: by Steve Faust
Faust: : You underestimate the opponent in this case. We are not talking about creatures half - drunk idiots carrying remingtons can pursue with dogs in a Carolina woods, or those that can be shot with what amounts to an anti - tank rifle from SUV's on the African plain. We are talking about animals that can actually fight back with a reasonable chance of success.

G3A3: Actually, most hunters aren't what you describe. My definition of "ignorant redneck trash" are people who terrorize the whole community in which they live.

Faust: That's about 85% of every hunter I have ever met, rich or poor. It's the one thing I didn't like about Roxton the first time his character was introduced. All he wanted to do is bag the first T. rex he saw as a trophy. At one time, I was an avid hunter. I actually hunted deer with a home made spear and very nearly got one, trapping it in a swamp. My weapon of choice a bit later on was a 16 gage. I fed a lot of my university friends and a number of poor families with pheasent / quail taken hunting with my father on weekends. I was both fast and accurate, often doubling on quail. I cannot tell you how often I had to track down and kill a wounded bird some business man was too lazy to finish off. I can remember running down one wounded pheasent in a corn field. She, yes she, the idiot who shot her never took the time to establish sex, employed her last defence, lying close to the earth. Trying to blend in. The fear in her eyes made me feel sick. I shot her at close range and put her out of her misery. As a hunter you are a killer and you enjoy killing. Don't try to con me that it's anything else. Remember, I've been in on the kill. Speed and accuracy, especially when observed by your associates, is a big deal. I call this the fastest gun in the west syndrome.You could care less about the pain and fear you produce in creatures that can't fight back. And, of course, by virtue of your brain and equipmnent, your always going to win, if not today, tomarrow. Rich and poor " white trash" are the same when it comes to hunting.

G3A3: Ever hear of a "shotgun home?" That literally means a one gun home. Therefore, a softnosed-loaded SKS or AK or .30-06 or Mini-14 or .270 is a work horse of home security as well as a hunter.

Faust: If I was Geronimo out on the plains with a buffalo rifle or a pioneer in a cabin up on the Judith River, or even a poor man living in a trailor out in the South Carolina sticks somewhere that couldn't afford Bi - Lo, I'd go hunting to put meat on the table. However, since Bi - Lo takes care of that admirably, there's no need for me to kill anything. And, I'd hate to be your neighbor if your going to use anything but a shotgun for home defence. You keep that kind of fire - power because of the sense of power it gives you. I once felt the same way. I know. For the most part it's an illusion. An intruder will most often catch you by surprise. The advantage is his. That's why weapons in the home kill more family members than intruders.

G3A3: Who bloody well cares about the primitives? The only tribe of any value to the explorers is the Shamanic one. If they get gassed with mustard or diophosgene gas they shouldn't have attacked the explorers to begin with!

Faust: I would care a great deal and we were not talking about people, we were talking about raptors. Gas is very difficult to control and the gases you describe are so horrible in their effect, that no tribe you ever used it on accidently or intentionally could ever be won over to your side.If I were on the plateau I'd be working to establish as many friendships as possible. Summerlee could devise medicines as readily as weapons. Sure, there are times you must fight, but I'd rely on firearms, grenades, and bamboo rockets, the last first as they do little damage, but would tend to terrorize a primitive attacker. Women and little children coughing up thier lungs while their skins are chemically burned off them ... that's not my style, and I don't think any other member of the Challenger expedition would opt for such an alternative, not even Marguerite.

G3A3: Jurassic Park was a movie. Movies are sensationalistic to begin with to sell tickets.

Faust: It just so happens that Speilburg intended to make his animals act as they probably would have. Paleontologists don't disagree with him. Most I've talked to think he did a pretty realistic job of it.

G3A3: I liked your ideas about terrain usage. How about digging a moat around the treehouse and then electrifying the water in it?

Faust: Very labor intensive. The soil beneath a thin cover of rottimg vegetation is loaded with iron. It can be cultivated for a few years and then becomes hardpan. The expedition would have to dig the moat out beyond the roots of the dead tree and strangler fig ( actually, by this time, I'm surprised that termites and rot have not gotten both tree and tree house ). The moat would have to be about 30 feet wide and filled with water from a nearby source. And then there is the problem of generating sufficient power 24 hours a day. The small unit they have does not appear up to the task. The expedition would also have to clear vegetation on both sides of the moat. I'd simply opt for high ground and steep cliffs.




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