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The White CouncilTom & GoldberryTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Stephen Geard on July 11, 1998 at 01:40:06 I wondered if I would get a bite! Including a line about Tom & Goldberry being Aule and Yavanna into the recent "Maiar of Middle-earth" thread. The idea is Eugene Hargrove's (see the URL below). Let me be firm. We will never know who Tom & Goldberry were. Tolkien did not know himself. But, of all the various theories, I think that Eugene's is the most plausable. After all, who but one of the great ones of the Valar could have put the One Ring on and laughed about it (given that Tolkien deliberately rejected the suggestion that Tom was Iluvatar). I know Tolkien tried to explain it in terms of Tom "taking a vow of poverty," and being a creature that had renounced control and thus could not himself be controlled, not even by the One Ring (see Letter #144). But consider, Olorin the Maia took a "vow of poverty" when he came to Middle-earth as Gandalf the Grey. He renounced control, and unlike his brother Curumo the Maia, never attempted to establish dominion in Middle-earth. But he was afraid to even touch the Ring, and would never have put it on. I don't think I actually believe Tom was Aule, but I do think that that theory explains more than any other I have come across.
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