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The White CouncilRe: Black Númenórans (another nonconclusive dicussion)Tolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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The White CouncilRe: Black Númenórans (another nonconclusive dicussion)Tolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Osric on May 18, 1999 at 21:29:38 In Reply to: Black Númenórans (another nonconclusive dicussion) posted by Neithan on May 12, 1999 at 08:56:28:
Well certainly on the face of it, the BNs would be a resource that Sauron / his Nazgul would have cultivated. But I'd caution that that certainly shouldn't be taken as meaning their star would have gone on in the ascendant. First there's the waning bloodline (see below). Second, it would seem likely to me that they would have 'found their level' and then just maintained it -- although the only reasoning I can offer for this is that we'd have heard more about it if they'd been going from strength to strength. : 2) It mattered not whether or not they even got racially "polluted" by "lesser" races- as long as they saw themselves as B. N.s (as Alaric's Visigoths). The " waning of the Dúnedain"-equivalent would probably be negated by Sauron's influence. Here I disagree. The waning was most significant in the dilution of the Numenorean bloodline -- resulting most especially in the inexorable decline of their sorcerous potential. Even if the Forces of Darkness encouraged eugenic practices, in-breeding would become the agent of a different sort of decline. : Any comments? IMHO the upper echelons of society in Umbar would have been effectively Black Numenorean, even though Tolkien, in continuing to call them the Corsairs, continued to remind us of their origin in Castamir's faction of the Faithful from the days of the Kin Strife.
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