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The White CouncilRe: Gildor InglorionTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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The White CouncilRe: Gildor InglorionTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Frederic on June 25, 1999 at 09:53:29 In Reply to: Re: Gildor Inglorion posted by Stephen Geard on June 25, 1999 at 06:33:55:
: You can't prove Voronwë was a descendant of Fingolfin just because Tolkien nowhere says he wasn't! By the same logic you can prove that Farmer Maggot was an illegitiamte son of Bilbo Baggins, or that Ghan-buri-Ghan was a son of Radagast the Brown. : But all this is irrelevant to the lineage of Gildor, who was born in Valnor. We know all the descendants of Finarfin: Finrod (never married, died childless), Angrod (married, one Valinor born son: Arothir-Orodreth), Aegnor (never married, died childless, according to the Athrabeth), Galadriel (married, one Middle-earth born daughter). : That's it! There is no way Gildor can be a descendant of Finarfin and born in Valinor. : Yes, I know Michael, you have some idea about Finrod being released from Mandos, marrying whats-her-name-ië and producing children from whom Gildor could have been descended. : But even so, Gildor would have been Gil-Galad's heir, which he wasn't. Houm ! Hum ! Sounds a bit hasty to me :) You are quite unfair with Michael's point, the thing being that Voronwe is explicitely referred to as from the House of Fingolfin (no such thing between Maggot and Baggins, or the other two, is there ?). We know also about the last thorough account concerning Finwe's descent, but that does not lift the question of what Tolkien had in mind while writing about Gildor in SdA, which was eventually the question ! Of course if we immediately refer to the Shibboleth (thanks for the spelling Michael, hehe) there is no question anymore,,, but what about our fun then ??
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