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The White CouncilRe: Here it endsTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Goodgulf on September 20, 1999 at 09:27:42 In Reply to: Here it ends posted by Frode on September 19, 1999 at 15:12:16:
: : : Tolkien denies being so simplistic, and his story bears out his denials. There is no such symbology in THE LORD OF THE RINGS. : No such symbology? I can't debate with you any longer. I have asked many people on several message boards and the vast majority agrees with me. Obviously we can't agree on this matter which really makes me wonder. : : : Now Jon you obviously have little idea what my case is so let : : : me sum up the debate: : : This was uncalled for. I have let this message stay on the board but I caution you to temper your words to others better than this. : It was not uncalled for. His reply to me was unpolite and suggestive. : : : -Some 'burarum' sais LotR was racist (nothing new, happens : : : every month) and michael wrote a message meant to quell all : : : such nonsense. : : I have written many such messages. : : : -However in doing so Michael went so far as to say that Black : : : does not represent evil in LotR any more then white does. This : : : upset me because 1) Color symbolism has nothing to do with : : : racism. 2) Black does represent evil in LotR. : : Color symbolism is one of the points argued most frequently by those who raise the racism issue, and black does not, never has, and never will represent evil in THE LORD OF THE RINGS. : Seriously Michael. Take a look at your last claim and please reconsider. : : You have completely missed Tolkien's point. : Hmmm I see you do not fail to sensure me at will. How about looking inward. THAT which you wrote above was a rude and insulting comment. I'm tempted to throw it back at you, but rather I'm sad because you shut the door of reasonable debate (I didn't expect that of you). : Why so personal and angry? And I must ask: Are you the One who knows tolkiens points better then all others? Which work of his that I have not read have you read to make such a bold claim? : Anyway as soon as somebody says something like that last comment of yours I start looking around for better debates. Pardon my intrusion, but I seem to be missing something here? What rude and insulting comment are you referring to?
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