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The White CouncilRe: Are Nazgul visible to Noldor?Tolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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The White CouncilRe: Are Nazgul visible to Noldor?Tolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Dave C-Q on October 07, 1999 at 10:59:48 In Reply to: Re: Are Nazgul visible to Noldor? posted by Neithan on October 07, 1999 at 09:53:46:
: : Does this mean that Glorfindel, Galadriel and the other High Elves could see that Nazgul as they really were? Does this mean they could see Frodo while wearing the ring? : The Noldor can probably see the Nazgūl (those that have lived in the blessed realm), mark their no-fear for them and the Nazgul's fear of them. However, Frodo (IMO) did not vanish into the spirit world (or whatever you wish to call it) when putting on the ring, it merely rendered him invisible and able to see this other world. : : Thanks in advance. Great site to those in charge. I like the attitude. : No fuzz. : NT I don't know... Let's see. The idea that the High Elves can see the Nazgul id based on the idea that they "live at once in both worlds [the wraith world and the "real" one] at once." But if Frodo was in the wraith world, and could only make out fuzzy shapes of Glorfindel and the others in the real world, what does that mean for perception across the bridge of the two? The Nazgul cannot see those in the "real" world, but only shadows of them, probably the same fuzzy shapes Frodo saw, maybe even less clear. (They could however clearly sense others...) So sight across the two realms is probably a fuzzy (and disorienting, at least to the unacustomed) affair. But this is based on the evidence of Frodo and the nazgul, who were only in one realm at a time; for the elves who lived in both, this may be different. So the best guess from the text is that the Noldor could probably make out some vague fuzziness about the nazgul, but couldn't see the fine details that Frodo could when he wore the ring. Dave C-Q
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