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The White CouncilRe: For Michael re: Half-DwarvesTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Goodgulf on January 27, 2000 at 19:17:52 In Reply to: Re: For Michael re: Half-Dwarves posted by Michael Martinez on January 27, 2000 at 18:03:49:
: I don't recall saying he spoke of "half-dwarves" as, say, a role-playing gamer would speak of them. The reference is to the army that took Cair Andros and crossed Anduin there to block the road to Rohan: : : So now at least the City was besieged, enclosed in a ring of : foes. The Rammas was broken, and all the Pelennor abandoned : to the Enemy. The last word to come from outside the walls : was brought by men flying down the northward road ere the Gate : was shut. They were the remnant of the guard that was kept at : that point where the way from Anorien and Rohan ran into the : townlands. Ingold led them, the same who had admitted Gandalf : and Pippin less than five days before, while the sun still rose : and there was hope in the morning. : : : : 'There is no news of the Rohirrim', he said. 'Rohan will not : come now. Or if they come, it will not avail us. The new host : that we had tidings of has come first, from over the River by : way of Andros, it is said. They are strong: battalions of Orcs : of the Eye, and countless companies of Men of a new sort that : we have not met before. Not tall, but broad and grim, bearded : like dwarves, wielding great axes. Out of some savage land in : the wide East they come, we deem. They hold the northward : road; and many have passed on into Anorien. The Rohirrim : cannot come.' : : I don't recall Tolkien ever calling them Half-dwarves. I think the convention was developed by gamers and Tolkien fans have simply fallen into the happen of using that term. I don't see how the term "not tall" can infer "short" like a dwarf. To me it could merely mean of average height or perhaps a bit shorter. The fact that they were broad and had beards like Dwarves tell us nothing about their height or lineage. They are described as "Men of a new sort", not Dwarves. My view is that some have put a slant on the passage that it does not warrant.
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