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The White CouncilRe: Gildor Inglorion of the House of Finrod--but How?Tolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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The White CouncilRe: Gildor Inglorion of the House of Finrod--but How?Tolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Foradan on February 17, 2000 at 09:26:45 In Reply to: Re: Gildor Inglorion of the House of Finrod--but How? posted by Michael Martinez on February 13, 2000 at 13:01:08:
: There is no evidence that Tolkien ever used the word "house" in this way with respect to the Elves. The only "iffy" passage is to be found in "Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin", where Voronwe says he is "Voronwe son of Aranwe of the House of Fingolfin", but there the usage is not explained or given any context. He was trying to get into Turgon's kingdom, and it is not established that Turgon was ruling a son of the House of Fingolfin. So Voronwe's statement may have been intended to be taken literally, or Tolkien may have lapsed and used the wrong name. What about "The Fall of Gondolin", where it is said that "This was the fashion and the array of the eleven houses of the Gondothlim, and the bodyguard of Tuor, the folk of the Wing, was accounted the twelfth"? Here "house" is definitely not used to mean kin, but following. Of course, neither are these houses associated with a certain person (though they include "the house of the king"), but the "house", as the word is used here, that Finrod of Nargothrond belonged to would, in my opinion, probably have been called "the house of Finrod". : : An elf of Nargothrond who may have fought beside Finrod, maybe : : even accompanied him from Cuivienen. Seems to fit the stature : : of the character better. : Finrod Felagund was born in Aman, as was his father Finarfin.
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