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Posted by macadamia on March 11, 2000 at 14:16:05 In Reply to: Wehn Sauron Knew The Ring Still Existed (was Re: more to it than that) posted by Michael Martinez on March 11, 2000 at 13:25:43:
At most you're just chipping away at the edges of what I've said. I have still yet to hear a compelling reason to think that Gandalf would know that destroying the ring would destroy Sauron, yet Sauron himself would not. Either Gandalf was just guessing, or Sauron should have known this too. Please, anyone -- explain Gandalf's source that would have confirmed for him that destroying the one ring would destroy Sauron. And in the process, make clear why Sauron would not have had the same knowledge. That would settle things. I maintain that the hypothesis that Sauron assumed the ring still existed but didn't know where to look is the more plausible option. The intimate connection between the lord of the rings and his one ring (filled so deeply with his own power that when it was, at last, destroyed he was forced to leave the confines of the world) was apparently not enough for him to tell where it was. But that he could not have even been sure whether it still existed or not seems terribly implausible to me. The only evidence for this view is (1) Sauron's long failure (as far as we _know_) to search for the ring, and (2) this stray comment from Gandalf. But (1) can be explained by other means (even if it's true! We do not know that Sauron had not been searching for the ring all along, just in the wrong places), and (2) is exactly what's in question -- whether Gandalf was making a reasonable guess at Sauron's beliefs about the ring or not.
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