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  Posted by macadamia on March 11, 2000 at 15:16:59
In Reply to: Re: and are wizards infallible? posted by Aelmer on March 11, 2000 at 15:00:11:



: You also have time feed your rage and hatred against those who defeated you. Rage and hatred can warp one's thoughts, and cloud one's memories.

OK, so let's reconstruct. Let's imagine that for the first 1000 years of the third age, while Sauron is reshaping, he's not really in condition to think things out clearly. Now he's back, and he tries to take stock of things. He has to wonder about the status of his ring. Two options:

(1) It was destroyed (2) It's lost

What's the evidence for each?

For (2) there are whatever suspicions Sauron might have had that destroying the ring would have destroyed him too. But maybe he really could have thought that the result of losing his ring was becoming a misshapen shadow for 1000 years. OK, so that could point toward (1) as well. Fine. For (2) there's also the continued existence of the ring-wraiths. That, it seems to me, doesn't point toward (1) at all.

But let's just say that the evidence is uncertain -- it doesn't clearly point toward either (1) or (2). Fair enough.

That is still nowhere near enough to suggest that Sauron would have ASSUMED that the ring had been destroyed. I don't care how upset you think he was, the idea that for nearly 2000 he just took it for granted that his ring was gone is hardly credible. It's just too important -- what, after all, if someone else gets a hold of it? A Galadriel, for instance. It would worry me, if I were Sauron.

If you only imagine that he wasn't sure one way or the other, that would still be reason enough for him to hope (and fear) that the ring was still extant, and that he might yet find it.

But he did not know where to look.



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