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Posted by macadamia on March 16, 2000 at 15:37:43 In Reply to: Re: why did Celeborn stay? posted by Dave on March 16, 2000 at 14:55:07:
: : : I thought I saw in Letters, one of the later ones written in : : : 1971/72, that Tolkien mentioned that both Celeborn and : : : Galadriel were born in Aman. : : In his last years, when he was reworking much of the cosmology of Middle-earth, Tolkien decided that Celeborn was born in Aman and left it with Galadriel. However, this tradition is incompatible with other source material published in THE ROAD GOES EVER ON, THE SILMARILLION, and even THE LORD OF THE RINGS (which strongly implies that Celeborn is a Silvan Elf, rather than a Sindarin Elf, although Tolkien revised Celeborn's history after the first edition was published). : Hello, hope you don't mind if I join in here, it seems to me, reading between the lines that Celeborn has no desire to go over sea when wifey goes, he's fairly bitter about the whole thing if you remember lamenting with old Aragorn (arrogant?) that he hopes 'Your doom is other than mine and your treasure remain with you until the end' - he either can't or won't go and Gladders deserts him, his fate in in M-E, protecting the rustic elves that remain - also, it says 'there is no record of the day when he at last sought the havens' - so you can assume he hangs around for a long while, otherwise why would he get all squinky about Galadriel going?? I agree, Dave -- that's sort of why I was asking. We're just speculating, of course, but I think this makes sense. And it makes me wonder how Elladan and Elrohir felt as well (especially about the death of their sister, and the loss of luster of Rivendell and Lorien).
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