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The White CouncilRe: Organic MachinesTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Olorin on April 12, 2000 at 01:12:27 In Reply to: Re: Organic Machines posted by Jim Gregors on April 11, 2000 at 22:40:22:
: : : What do you mean by 'organic machines', and what are the recent discoveries proving their viability? If you are talking about bio-mechanical chips and neural networks, I imagine these concepts would have been beyond the means of Melkor or Sauron. : : I beleive (in this case I know) that Morgoth and Sauron had ways to create reproductive (this is less likely, but absolutely possible) creatures with the ability to operate (move and make judgement). The operation of them would have to be based on the will of the maker... Save the use of technology (which Morgoth and Sauron were not capable of or cared for). : : Maedhros : What would be the use of such creatures? As soon as Melkor or Sauron ceased concentrating on them they would become as still as statues (and as defenseless). It is a central theme of The Silmarillion that, despite his desire to do so, Melkor was incapable of creating living creatures outside the concept of Iluvatar's vision - he could only pervert that which already existed. The same holds true for Sauron (and Saruman, and Aule). Eru was the only one who could create. The power of the Ainur, Maiar, Elves, etc. was to shape and manipulate the stuff of Eru's creation. The lower one goes in order of power (Ainur, Maiar, Elves, Men) the less the ability to manipulate and shape creation. Thus, while Melkor's ability to shape creation was the most powerful, he still could not create on his own. -Olorin
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