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The White CouncilRe: BilboTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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The White CouncilRe: BilboTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Aelmer on May 05, 2000 at 14:56:02 In Reply to: Re: Bilbo posted by Thentaran on May 04, 2000 at 16:08:05:
: : I would guess that Sauron could only control the Nazgul because they were already subjecated by the rings, and because they were held in the realm of the living by the power of Sauron's will. Therefor they had to be controlled to act (Sauron's puppets). : : Maedhros : I don't agree. When Frodo puts on the Ring to hide from Boromir and he goes up on the mounstain he isn't "using" the ring. Yet it says that he could sense a EYE looking for him and that he wanted to tell Sauron he was there(Verily I come unto thee). Therefore it is quite ovbiuos that BIlbo too should have felt the pull of Sauron. While in Dol Guldur Sauron was looking for the ring near the Gladden Fields so I see no reason why he wouldn't have noticed Bilbo. Besides Bilbo was closer to Dol Guldur than Frodo was to Mordor. : -Thentaran Weshould remember that the inconstancies arise because The Hobbit was not originally part of the LOTR story. Still, at the time Bilbo was in Mirkwood, Sauron was only begining to rebuild his strength. Also, if Sauron was looking for the ring in the area of Gladden, his attention and focus would have been 180 degrees away from Bilbo's location. The impression I get, from the LOTR, is that Sauron was not all seeing, and was limited to where he chose to focus his attention. As I stated earlier, in my opinion, Sauron could not accurately differentiate between himself and his power invested in the Ring. That is why the nazgul, who were tied to Ring, were used to search. If the nazgul were searching the Gladden area, they were too far away from Bilbo to sense the Ring. Did Frodo actually sense the EYE looking for him, or was it an attempt by the Ring to return to its rightfull master? Early on Gandalf says that the Ring will seek its master. Perhaps that was what Frodo sensed, the ring pushing him to Mordor. Of course, this raises the question of why the Ring did not urge Bilbo to move Dol Guldur or Mordor. Opinion, anyone?
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