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The White CouncilRe: Tolkien`s eyeTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Alexander on May 17, 2000 at 08:58:45 In Reply to: Re: Tolkien`s eye posted by John D. on May 15, 2000 at 18:16:30:
: #1: Frodo could have seen the tracks when he woke up and imagined the rest. Possibly, but he wasn`t a ranger, and he had other things on his mind. Tolkien does of course want to make it clear how very out of the ordinary for hobbits this behavious was, and the reaction of the fox is totally believable - if not exactly put into words. : #2: Frodo could have put these words in Boromir's mouth, wanting to fully redeem him for posterity. These words don`t really redeem him - it`s what he said to Aragorn that does that - and his defence of merry and Pippin. And Frodo never actually used this kind of artistic license when compiling the tale - he was careful *not* to invent things. If he wanted to break that rule, this is an odd place to do it, and for no apparent reason. I`ve come to the conclusion that this presents the greatest difficulty, as I don`t think, even with lipreading, the palantir could have caught Boromir`s spoken words - even though he might have been looking roughly in the direction of Minas Tirith, as it was up the hill that frodo fled to escape him. The words either made a vague imprint on Frodo`s mind, or Gandalf with his thought bent towards them somehow heard them. I don`t know. : #3: As someone mentioned earlier, Sam could have gotten a glimpse of all of this before he really woke up. Not all of it, certainly not the hesitation and doubt, and the "fleeting moment." The words "could they have seen him" are fairly conclusive evidence that they didn`t - and that someone else presumably did. If Tolkien often used this kind of all-seeing perspective then it wouldn`t matter; but he doesn`t and it does. It`s not his way. *Everything* Tolkien writes supposedly comes from some source or other.
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