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  Posted by Wibstap on May 17, 2000 at 10:44:51
In Reply to: Re: The uses of Sammath Naur posted by Karl on May 16, 2000 at 10:14:14:



: The use of sammath naur originally dates back to the last alliance. sauron had actually repented off his ways and invited Gil-galahad and a few of his chums (elendil, Elrond etc) for a quiet bit of tea and crumpets warmed over the open pit of doom. Unfortuantly, due to sauron writing in the black speech and not sindarin or quenya, this got misinterpreted as 'come and have a go if you think you are hard enough, yeah you and your mates' rather than 'Oh i say would you mind popping over for a cup of tea and a crumpet at my rather nice new lounge i have built'. This all arose because Elrond was a bit hasty in the old translation. So from thid the entire WOTR was fought over the misconception of 1)a party invite 2) Mistaking sammath naur for a ring and weapon making centre of power,a forge of doom, rather than somewhere to have a quiet chat. : From this it was the elves fault. Obviously. : :)

This guy knows what he's talking about.

Maybe Grond was built to deliver the aforementioned pizza to appologize for his mistakes?

And the Orcs? Waiters. The Trolls? Bouncers. The Witch-King? Sauron's secretary.

The Balrog was also misunderstood. He wasn't evil, he was just cranky. I mean how would you feel if some upstart dwarf came along while you were sleeping and hit you with a pick-axe?

Smaug, too, was not as bad as tales say. The dwarves knew that he would be attracted by treasure! The entire Lonely Mountain was just a clever ploy to kill Smaug! Bard was an unwitting pawn, lied to by the dwarves and tricked into slaying the poor, gentle dragon!



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