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  Posted by Maedhros on May 17, 2000 at 11:42:09
In Reply to: Re: The Palantir posted by Gandalf on May 17, 2000 at 09:48:34:



: : : Aragorn claimed the palantir, and revealed himself to Sauron as the heir of the line of kings. The fact that he was so far away, and that he had the advantage of owning the palantir would have given him a huge advantage. This wasn't exactly a good example to match Aragorn and Sauron's wills. Even Gandalf had trouble merely distracting Sauron when Frodo was upon Amon Hen. My point was really that Aragorn didn't so much defeat Sauron, as cheat. =) : : : This example isn't an indication that Aragorn can "defeat the greatest of Maia in a combat of wills", but that he was the rightful owner of the Palantir.

: : : Gandalf

: : Aragorn's will, though it was strong, could never match the will of Sauron. I agree that he 'cheated', but we have to, at least give him credit that he faced Sauron in will. I would give most of the credit though to Gandalf.

: : Maedhros

: : I agree : what do you mean by giving credit to Gandalf?

: Gandalf

Gandalf's presence in Middle Earth had distracted Sauron from the start, actually I would give the credit to all of the good Istari. When the Istari were sent to Middle Earth it says that their presence was always known to their opposition, and was very distracting. The will of Sauron was probably half as effective due to their presence. But of course, Aragorn's will was also strong, though if it were not for the presence of the Istari, Aragorn wouldn't have had a chance. Remember Ar-Pharason's will? It was much stronger than Aragorns (because the Numenorians declined after the 13th generation), yet Pharason was decieved by Sauron and fell to his side. Of course, this is but my opinnion.

Maedhros



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