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The White CouncilRe: more about wizardsTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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The White CouncilRe: more about wizardsTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Bacchus on May 28, 2000 at 08:41:21 In Reply to: Re: more about wizards posted by Curugon on May 28, 2000 at 01:54:01:
: : : 1- The wizards were maia, lesser spirits embodied as men and sent to fight Sauron. Of note, Sauron was also a maia. And there is a school of thought that says Tom Bombadil was as well. : : : 2- The maia, though lesser spirits then the Valar, were, for all intents and purposes immortal. Thus Gandalf the Grey was reborn Gandalf the White, though he was esentially the same individual. In keeping with this Sauron was never destroyed or killed utterly, but instead remained a spirit, though his final demise was rather dark. : : : 3- AFAIK none of the wizards adopted or had biological offspring. Though I am not the loremaster that some are on this board, and so, as always, I will bow to their superior knowledge if I am incorrect in this matter. : : : -RR : : I don't believe that any of the wizards had children. Gandalf and Saruman almost certainly did not; it is possible that Radagast did. I won't go into Alatar and Pallando, because I don't know anything about their exploits:) : Nothing is said about the Istari having children, but it is not impossible. Melian was a Maia, and she had the greatest of all Elven maidens ever to be borne. : -Curugon A few additional tidbits: Balrogs were also Maiar. The Maiar had widely differing "strengths". Gandalf and Sauron were both Maiar, but Sauron was undoubtedly far more powerful. Additionally, the five Istari were expressly forbidden to use their strength to directly oppose Sauron. Their purpose was to guide the Free Peoples through counsel in their opposition to Sauron. It was certainly possible for the Istari to have fathered children, although there is no record of them having done so.
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