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The White CouncilSauron's power without the RingTolkien and Inklings Discussion |
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Posted by Gungnir on July 31, 2000 at 07:24:31 There was a discussion here well over a year ago about whether Sauron could access the power of the Ring whilst he did not have it in his possession. The argument was that his native power was locked into the Ring and Sauron was diminished because he did not posess it. I (think I) recall Michael saying that he believed that this was the case - Sauron had access to all of his native power, no matter how far away the Ring was. At the time I found the arguments in support of Sauron being able to use his full native power to be quite weak. In the "what power did the Ring Posess" thread below, Michael has made this statement: Sauron was technically almost as powerful (as an individual being) at the end of the Third Age as he had been at the end of the Second Age, but the greater part of his power was locked inside the Ring, externalized. Tolkien wrote that he was in "rapport" with the Ring, meaning that its continued existence ensured his ability to take shape again and grow strong. Is this a shift of position Michael? It sounds like you think that Sauron without the Ring was less powerful than he would be with the Ring (obviously excluding the 'extra' power that the Ring itself conferred. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me - it wouldn't be the first time. Does anyone else have a view on this?
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