badlands > December 3rd, 2023, 08:43 PM
Alvin Eriol > December 5th, 2023, 10:00 PM
Michael > December 9th, 2023, 04:46 PM
Jaak > December 15th, 2023, 07:29 AM
Michael > December 18th, 2023, 02:40 AM
Jaak > December 22nd, 2023, 06:39 PM
(December 18th, 2023, 02:40 AM)Michael Wrote: It was pretty much a joke Tolkien included in the early part of The Hobbit.Hobbits have other dealings with Elves, and by implication Valar:
Bilbo Wrote:mad adventures, anything from climbing trees to stowing away aboard the ships that sail to the Other SideCapitalized Other Side. Meaning Uttermost West. Bilbo and Frodo were not the first.
Michael > December 23rd, 2023, 12:02 PM
Jaak > December 24th, 2023, 05:57 PM
Alvin Eriol > December 24th, 2023, 10:57 PM
(December 23rd, 2023, 12:02 PM)Michael Wrote: But Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam would have been the only hobbits to succeed in getting to the Other Side. After all, how would anyone know a hobbit had stowed away on one of those Elven ships? Would they have brought witnesses the Elves didn't notice? Seems unlikely to me.
So I'd say the stowaways were caught and probably put ashore (hopefully politely with maybe a good laugh).
Jaak > December 26th, 2023, 08:03 AM