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  badlands > December 28th, 2023, 10:28 PM

  https://www.thepopverse.com/jrr-tolkien-...ve-jansson
  He is more scary this way.

• RE: Giant Gollum

  Michael > January 1st, 2024, 05:03 PM

  That would have forced Tolkien to make him something other than a corrupted hobbit. Can you imagine a giant Gollum following Frodo and friends down the Anduin river?
  
  "Frodo looked back and saw two gigantic eyes for a mere second. And then they were gone."
  
  Spooky in its own way, but not quite as plausible as small Gollum riding a log.

• RE: Giant Gollum

  Mordomin > January 2nd, 2024, 10:24 PM

  I think that the first question is how did the giant come to possess the Ring in the first place?  After that, how did it crawl into the caverns beneath the Misty Mountains?  After that, what did it eat down there for ~ 700 years.  And worst, why wouldn't Giant Gollum simply grab and eat Bilbo, Ring and all, rather than engage in a riddle game?  Sting would not frighten a giant.

• RE: Giant Gollum

  Alvin Eriol > January 3rd, 2024, 04:32 PM

  Yes, I don't know if JRRT conceived Gollum as being a corrupted Hobbit when he originally wrote The Hobbit, but good gosh the handy ring of invisibility (like a power-up prize encountered in a game of D&D or a late 80's video game) didn't even become The Ring until well after The Hobbit was published and well received, and JRRT started sketching out a sequel! The "Gollum is a Hobbit corrupted and 'stretched' by the Ring" plot twist might be a retcon, but IIRC looking at the book's history suggests Gollum was always conceived as being a humanoid biped whose size was comparable to Bilbo. IIRC JRRT sharply rebuked the artist for that proposed illustration as having missed the mark.
  

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  (January 1st, 2024, 05:03 PM)Michael Wrote: That would have forced Tolkien to make him something other than a corrupted hobbit. Can you imagine a giant Gollum following Frodo and friends down the Anduin river?
  
  "Frodo looked back and saw two gigantic eyes for a mere second. And then they were gone."
  
  Spooky in its own way, but not quite as plausible as small Gollum riding a log.

  
  And then Fred followed them out of Moria as well? Yikes!!

• RE: Giant Gollum

  Mordomin > January 6th, 2024, 12:05 AM

  (January 3rd, 2024, 04:32 PM)Alvin Eriol Wrote: Yes, I don't know if JRRT conceived Gollum as being a corrupted Hobbit when he originally wrote The Hobbit, but good gosh the handy ring of invisibility (like a power-up prize encountered in a game of D&D or a late 80's video game) didn't even become The Ring until well after The Hobbit was published and well received, and JRRT started sketching out a sequel! The "Gollum is a Hobbit corrupted and 'stretched' by the Ring" plot twist might be a retcon, but IIRC looking at the book's history suggests Gollum was always conceived as being a humanoid biped whose size was comparable to Bilbo. IIRC JRRT sharply rebuked the artist for that proposed illustration as having missed the mark.
  

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  (January 1st, 2024, 05:03 PM)Michael Wrote: That would have forced Tolkien to make him something other than a corrupted hobbit. Can you imagine a giant Gollum following Frodo and friends down the Anduin river?
  
  "Frodo looked back and saw two gigantic eyes for a mere second. And then they were gone."
  
  Spooky in its own way, but not quite as plausible as small Gollum riding a log.

  
  And then Fred followed them out of Moria as well? Yikes!!

  Why would Fred follow them out of Moria?  Are you positing that a gigantic Gollum would have prevented Gandalf from confronting the Balrog?
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